The full hour will not be available online. They're like, `What do you mean?' Very, very serious. If I, just kill her, Zachary will be safe. This couple have endured more grief and pain that most people will endure in a lifetime. On Nov. 5, Kate, who is originally from England, pictures Turner sitting on top of a Guy Fawkes bonfire and her family all around it with fireworks. So we called, and he came over and told us that Zachary and Shirley were. KATE: You get a different kind of relationship with God after this kind of. Turner, the daughter of a U.S. serviceman and a woman from St. Anthony, met Andrew while they were attending medical school at Memorial University in St. Johns. In the end, she died, but love did not. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, this ranks right up there. You dont get over it. kind of the only way that this little boy is going to get to know his dad. In January, the film was nominated for Best Documentary by both the Chicago Film Critics Association and the Online Film Critics Society, who also nominated writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne for Breakthrough Filmmaker of 2008. MORRISON: Do you find yourself going back and playing that back in your mind? June 2, 2015 - June 2020. MORRISON: In Kurt Kuenne's documentary, Clark Simpson, one of Andrew's close friends at the hospital, remembers that November morning just two weeks later when Shirley surprised Andrew again. decision. September 28, 2008: -Drafted and finalized press releases, articles, annual reports, websites, earnings releases and investor . "This is the purest, most intensely raw film I have ever seen of any kind, dramatic or nonfiction. If she had her way, we would not have had any visitation at, MORRISON: Coming up, fighting not just to see their grandson, but. (Driving through rainy street; correctional facility sign; Andrew; Kurt, Unidentified Woman #8: They would drive two hours to the jail. It would take two weeks. MORRISON: It's no easy thing to be a doctor in America. December 15, 2009: You are born, you grow up, you make friends, you get a job, a partner, a house, maybe a car, maybe a kid, maybe more. I'm just curious Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, and I wanted to know for safety. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Is this Dr. Turner? Unidentified Man #25: I love them very much. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. If a suitable candidate is not identified, the award will not be given for that year. This is Defector, a new sports blog and media company. Imagine being the parents of a man who was killed and then having to ingratiate yourself to the killer in order to keep your grandchild safe. Corporal GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, Dr. Turner, I'm Corporal Gardner with the Pennsylvania State Police. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. I got to see what happens to the bastard who did this. Kuenne finished his documentary and dedicated it to the memories of both Bagby and Zachary. Dance with the Devil is David Bagby's . Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. And that was midafternoon. That's what Kurt does, he's an independent filmmaker. (Newspaper rack; photo of Shirley and Zachary), Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) I am going to continue to scream long and loud, MORRISON: The Bagbys have continued a campaign for the overhaul, of the bail system. On December 4, 2009, Bill C-464 (our bail reform bill) was discussed on the floor of the House of Commons for a full hour, and MP Scott Andrews received unanimous support from all political parties in the House of Commons to advance the bill to the Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. doesn't take much to pull a trigger, does it? Its heartbreaking, said Kate, who recalls last seeing Zachary the evening before he was killed. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. prayed that his murderer, whoever it was, would be swiftly brought to justice. In initial questioning, Turner claimed to have been home sick in Iowa when Bagby was shot, but cell-phone records showed her placing calls along the thousand-mile highway route between Council Bluffs and Latrobe in the days before and after the murder. The other, their grandson, Zachary Turner. (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. I mean, she. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. MORRISON: The Bagbys said that Shirley would later apologize for, her reaction. to let out hints that Shirley Turner was the prime suspect. HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. I can understand that. -, "You don't just view what's happening on the screen -- you live it through every gasp and every tear, and every bit of exasperated anger(resulting) in one powerful standing ovation, the likes of which I have never seen at Hot Docs beforeDear Zachary will move you. Except, OK, sometimes not. But two months later, that would change, after Shirley appealed, again to be released on bail. They quit their jobs and moved from California to Newfoundland. 1 Photo. But I used to look at her hand and think, it. They also have Andrews friends, like Kuenne, who remain in their current lives and with whom they can talk about Andrew. Troutman Funeral Home is assisting the Bagby family. Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta will be the bill's sponsor in the Senate, and will shortly be distributing DVDs of "Dear Zachary" to all members of the Senate, just as he and MP Andrews distributed the film to all members of the House of Commons last fall when he introduced the bill. An autopsy report would show that an anti-anxiety drug, prescribed by the very psychiatrist who put up Shirley's bail money had been, mixed into Zachary's formula. HOUSE OF COMMONS UNANIMOUSLY PASSES BILL C-464. substance to it. (Trailer park; parking lot; water; Kurt on boat; excerpts from "Dear Zachary"; houses seen through rainy window; Kate and Zachary). In New York - August 8-14 at the IFC Center, 323 Sixth Avenue at W. 3rd Street. A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. Click HERE for ticket information. And in that way this tragedy remains hers and hers alone. In Los Angeles - August 22-28 at the Arclight Hollywood, 6360 Sunset Blvd. MP Andrews was spurred on to the creation of this bill after seeing "Dear Zachary" at a March screening in Ottawa to which all Members of Parliament were invited. -, "urgent, furiousadmirably well editedthis incredible, well-researched documentary demonstrates the vast gulf one life can leave behind." Either she's grabbed Zachary and taken off and she's trying to, escape, and she has a snowball's chance in hell of getting away with that. MORRISON: When another of Andrew's best friends, Kurt Kuenne, heard about the murder, he also went into a tailspin. KATE: On Sunday night I got out of bed and prayed because I thought Andrew was at risk. It will have its television premiere on MSNBC this fall following a theatrical release that is currently in negotiations and expected to be announced in the coming weeks. Andrew came to St. John's. I couldn't see the point anymore. I had a job I loved. This is what that fucking bitch didnt know, David Bagby fumes towards the end of Dear Zachary. Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' And the comfort they personify can be found in the fact that even in the face of Shirley Jane Turner, they not only continue, they remain good while continuing. The good life started in earnest when Kate first laid eyes on Petty Officer David Bagby, who was serving on the USS Hornet, docked in Long Beach in 1967. They are prophecies. And so, on August 18, 2003, Shirley Jane Turner kills Zachary. It has been our privilege to have the trust and support of our East Coast communities for the last 200 years. Unidentified Man #20: The weather here is terrible. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. On the 5th, however, Turner appeared back in Latrobe. None of his friends liked Turner because she was often inappropriate and even harassed one of Bagbys exes and just generally appeared to be an incredibly unstable, crude, and unlikeable personbasically Bagby's exact opposite. But he was accepted here, St. John's, Newfoundland, the easternmost point in North America. -. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. We're thrilled with MP Andrews' initiative and efforts, and support him 100% as he moves this bill forward. MORRISON: There might have been a particular reason for this. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. I promise within the first five minutes you will be captured by it and you won't be able to tear yourself away. How do you represent the fact that this 13-month-olds death was preventable? The International Film Music Critics also nominated his musical score for Best Documentary Score of 2008. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. Now, she sucked us in here, too. I, Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Look, we will do what is best for Zachary. It turns out Shirley owned a .22 caliber handgun, which she acquired while living in Iowa. MORRISON: It was almost two years after Andrew Bagby's murder, when Shirley Turner's eldest son T.J. drove home to his girlfriend after an. If you didnt realize the importance of that, Kuenne mutes the film to let you process it. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? David was a . Instead, the film's dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagby's parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their son's body. And in that time, the Canadian justice system does nothing. Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. How else do you represent almost virtually the same crime happening back to back despite the hindsight in between? GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah. That one comes back a lot. (Photos of David and Kate with Zachary; Shirley being escorted from court). Amending Canada's bail code was my goal in releasing "Dear Zachary" publicly; it is my pleasure to announce that goal is now a reality. Sometimes, if you are paying attentionclose attentionyou can see it coming, even if only barely. Mr. SHEARS: She's kind of reliving a university life again. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby. They could check cell towers then, but only manually. After the shooting, according to Kate, Turner called her claiming she was trying to reach Andrew. Nobody drives 16 hours after you've just broken up with them.' Mr. SIMPSON: He said, `You'll never guess who showed up on my doorstep at 5:30.' Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. MORRISON: How did you find out what happened, how he had been killed? For the Bagbys, shock might have, (Photo of David and Zachary; photo of Kate and Zachary; Shirley being escorted, from court; court documents; court exterior; court documents; Kate and David), KATE: I'd sat in the back of the room while Judge Green said to her, `I'm so, sorry, Dr. Turner, your life is on hold, and I know the law is slow.' They also went to Ottawa to push the case for Bill C-464, which had been introduced by then Liberal MP Scott Andrews, at a committee hearing. Mr. SIMPSON: Things people should know about Andrew, he was never late. Well, I was hurt in an, accident. 1 suspect was his estranged girlfriend, Shirley Turner, also a medical doctor, who was raised in western Newfoundland and was then practicing in Iowa. Click here for ticket information! was that they'd have to accept her daily phone calls. They are selfless. Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. But it will also introduce you to some of the most inspiring, strong and caring people ever to grace the big screen."" Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. He seems to be talking about the unfathomable grief Shirley Jane Turner left behind. Blood red screen. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. MORRISON: And ultimately she sent him away, with no forewarning. Hello. Please check back for updates as the bill makes its way through the Senate in the coming weeks -- and if you are a Canadian Citizen, please write your Senator to voice your support of C-464 during this crucial time. You will cry. (Newfoundland; Shears driving; photo of Shirley and Zachary; water at night; Mr. SHEARS: She said Zachary was being fussy and that just driving him, around would calm him down. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. This is not the worst instance in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. Mr. SHEARS: I thought they were great with him. How the fuck do you live like that? ', Because I know you would be worried if we disappeared for a couple of days or, MORRISON: Was she planning something? Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. Its not the sort of true crime that leaves you wanting more. On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). get in there, if that's what she demanded. helped convince me that she would not hurt Zachary. ', MORRISON: But they'd have to wait almost a month. He's a little bleary eyed, but. quiet. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yes, ma'am, I am. Newfoundland to meet the now 11-month-old little boy. They were somewhat successful with the passing of Bill C-464 in December 2010 with the added clause that bail could be denied if it was deemed necessary for the protection of anyone under the age of 18. Cpl. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). But something kept me going, and. Read the DocuWeek Q&A with writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne HERE. Slamdance Film Festival book signing! I didn't have. Through a complicated series of delayed hearings and granted bails, Turner remained free for many months while the decision regarding her extradition was in process. It, (Photo of Shirley; Shirley, Zachary and David; photos of Shirley and Zachary). to reconsider getting some help with that. June 25, 2008: with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. The couple was also involved in a support group for parents of murdered children and sat through three murder trials to try and help other surviving parents deal with their incredible grief. But they also contribute to the feeling of watching something urgent and unmediated. ', Mr. SIMPSON: And I told him, I said, `You know, Andrew, when I break up with somebody and put them on a plane and send them 1300 miles away,' I said, `They knock on my front door, I'm going out the back door and I'm calling the police.' | Learn more about Tessa Bagby's work experience, education . Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. It was all incorrect from the beginning, that all this, innocence and everything she's told you was a lie. I said, `When do you think you'll be done?' The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. will not hurt Zachary, period. And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. Zachary's life, even talking to her eldest son and his girlfriend about it. In that time, it also becomes clear that Andrews fate is in danger of also becoming his sons. Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. I praise Kurt Kuenne for having the heart and determination to perfectly put together one of the most powerful documentaries I have ever watched. Dear Zachary was named one of the top 5 documentaries of 2008 by the National Board of Review! The documentary was originally released in 2008. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. Kurt Kuennes 2008 documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, deserves a second look, especially in light of the recent popularity of true-crime programs like Serial and Making a Murderer., Photograph courtesy Oscilloscope Pictures / Everett. Woman #9: to make that journey was awful. And thank God. It comes down to probable cause, the right to bail and the presumption of innocence.
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