I very much doubt you are. Yassein and Islam Said later helped hide Yaser Said in a home in Justin. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. The District Attorney got this one right. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. The sisters, who were students at Lewisville High School, were found dead in their fathers taxi in Irving. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. Jenkins' violent death shocked residents of the Northeast Kingdom, including Gerta Blasczyk of St. Johnsbury. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. He tried to claim someone else murdered them and that the night his daughters were killed someone was following them. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Through that testing, the elderly patient was confirmed to be the same woman locally known in Pittsburgh as a street preacher called The Sparrow who vanished and left her family flummoxed. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? Not sure why anyone is defending her. And shes were so happy. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. It was just assumed to be crib death. CHOOSE1 Three Strikes Reform Act needs 365,880 signatures by June 1: Volunteer today! Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. At that time he was living in Connecticut. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. Oh my God. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. You took my life. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. He was happy. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. Yaser Abdel Said, 65, was found guilty of the 2008 capital murders of his daughters, Sarah Said, 17, and Amina Said, 18, according to the Dallas Morning News. I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! Jerry Browns office, because of Wrights Three Strikes sentence of life without possibility of parole (LWOP), she does not qualify for medical parole. All rights reserved. A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. Although I would have liked it to be death! Rest in peace Joann and Alex. A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Phone records dont lie.) Special prosecutor Patricia Brown Holmes said, even though her side didn't win any convictions, the case still helped make police more accountable. We really thought she was dead all those years. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. A federal jury found Yassein Abdulfatah Said, 59, guilty on one count of conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest, one count of concealing a person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. WoW! Still, no good leads materialized. However, Said never called 911. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. "I suggest that it stands for a moment in time where people actually take a moment to take a serious look at how we allocate our resources to social services. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. in journalism from the University of Southern California. At the trial, prosecutor Michael McIntyre alleged that Patricia remained obsessed with Andrew Katrinak long after their breakup despite testimony that shed had many boyfriends and live-in lovers to occupy her bandwidth. She had had numerous run-ins with the police and, each time, would tell them to be ready because the end of the world was coming. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. "I'm not sorry we were caught. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. I've been thinking about them the last two weeks every morning when I wake up and close my eyes," she said. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. They also presented an email from the girls to one of their teachers prior to the murder saying they feared their father would kill them. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Patricia Wright I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow. I have never seen anything this egregious., Requests for Proposals and Qualifications, Families to Amend California's Three Strikes (FACTS), life without possibility of parole (LWOP), National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), What California should do with people convicted of violent felonies, The Folsom 6 who stood up for Yogi are vindicated. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. "You can keep those evil eyes glaring just glare away because this is going to be the last time that you see me.". In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 Not everything is a conspiracy. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. They also raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence, including the lack of fingerprints and eyewitness reports the place Said at the crime scene. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a WebTexas-born Patricia ("Tissie) Said, formerly of the Owens family, is the mother who lured her two teenage daughters, Sarah and Amina, to their deaths at the hands of their own father BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. Then international law enforcement was contacted. She has always denied this allegation and says that both she and Lawrence Slaughter are innocent. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. What evidence is there she actually left the state? And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. Shes just extremely happy with Andy, her brother, Michael OConnor, told the media. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Animals would have for sure. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. False. Had there been a switch? Feb 7, 2017 Patricia A. Giddings, seated beside Keeseville-based attorney Jacob Painter in Clinton County Court on Tuesday, spoke only to affirm she understood the proceedings. Whatever the truth is. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. Thanks for contacting us. Patricia Patricia had a knack for writing strong headlines, which won her first place in a 2012 national contest. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. Patricia Wright is a prisoner in Central California Womens Facilitys Nursing Unit coping with an extraordinary array of challenges. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial issues and that Jerome was dying of liver cancer and only had 60 days to live. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. The trial was taking so much of my time. She led a normal life, with a job as an elevator operator at the Art Institute of Pittsburgh, until 1984, when her religious vision occurred. Yes, that doesnt mean shes unquestionably guilty, but it does mean her case has been relatively exhaustively examined (and its not over) and it means that your assertion that you are right and the guilty camp are wrong (and that this should be obvious) is absurdly overplayed. It seems so, according to you. Sorry not sorry. She is the one who tricked them, first by 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. She held up pictures of her dead daughters. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. False. Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. No show. Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? she didnt need to . Your comment could not be farther than the truth! (Nope. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. Incriminating words. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Its never been made clear. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? Patricia Wrights brother, Larry Wright, 47, and her neighbor, Janet Marcelin, 55, both testified that Patricia Wright and Lawrence Slaughter committed the murder but recanted their testimony after Patricia was sentenced to life without possibility of parole. They returned with a guilty verdict and a sentence of two life terms. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Said showed no emotion as the verdict was read. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! Very similar. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. This story has been shared 114,982 times. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. We didnt expect it. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. I am sorry it ever happened at all.". I dont think so. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. Stop. Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. Pal stays true. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? The defense argued that the 911 call is not clear and that Said was targeted by investigators because he is a Muslim. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year.
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