I dont like the sappy talks about the perfect mothers. Wow! 3rd hour had all of the PRI & YW leaders including the YW themselves in RS with homemade lemon cakes from the teacher. My mother was an ideal, and she is schizophrenic, couldnt cook water without burning the pan, never cleaned a thing in the house while we were children, had rebellious to some degree or another, etc. It worked well in my ward, I think. This is what I need for . It is not a bad thing and it might be the one day that young mothers will remember and enjoy the most. It isn't in every country so I don't know why it has to be in just a few. I explained that I was not calling any men to speak, due to their tendency to give perfect mother talks, and felt they could do a better job giving an honest uplifting talk that could be of benefit to the mothers in the congregation. What does that say about us as a people? Since my mom has unacknowledged mental health issues, this is my oldest sister and a lady in L.A. who I still keep in contact with. If they give out a plant that I can put in the ground, Ill be sad to miss that, though. Dont twist the knife; let them come to you if they want it. Nice meeting. Gods commands I must obey, Does this mean that finally..a talk could be about our Heavenly Mothers? I still dont understand it, which is probably why Im still very nervous about having kids. Products; . You can still give the women the day off. Thank you to everyone! Trust her. Yes! All She was not worthy of any review from me. I thought my husband (Sonny) had already posted this, but maybe not, or Im just blinder than usual. Alece 100 it is a bit rich for you to interpret that your comment and that quote by Lewis mean the same thing. But I realize others prefer plants. I miss her something terrible, and being at the grave-site really brought all of those emotions to the surface. It hits pretty close because Im one of those lucky people who get to speak on Mothers Day this year. 41 Fear not, little children, for you are mine, and I have overcome the world, and you are of them that my Father hath given me; 42 And none of them that my Father hath given me shall be lost.. On this site you will find a variety of arrangements for ward choirs, solo piano, vocal duets and more. As the son of a mother who was destroyed every Mothers Day, and seeing many similar experiences here, I plan to stick to the Christ-centric meeting next year. Variations included a verse for when mommy comes home stoned, with descriptions of bratty violent Mormon children and a terrible version only whispered with stifled giggles including titillating, lolita overtones. She talked about how her convert mother negotiated church attendance with her inactive husband, how she brought the gospel into the home to the extent she could while maintaining close family ties and coping with her own faith struggles, and how her example and choices blessed her home. I loved it! Because children can be wayward we should not celebrate parenthood. Our current ward celebrates Mothers Day with the obligatory talks. Mothers Day gifts at church should be like free t-shirt day at the baseball game. Mother's Day Singing Time Idea. Others must be killed or theyll live forever, injuring regular folk. Is this our Sharon Haynie from DN branch? This is brilliant, Mark. The Spirits constant companionship is one of the greatest gifts of mortality. It is Mother's Day and yet the day is supposed to about everything about women EXCEPT being a mother. However, like you, I thought Fathers Day was a done and done. An ideal is fine to have in your own life, but imo it is dangerous to attempt to have one for a worldwide religious organization. Those who are solely focused on their own selfish desires? Someone explain this. We also have free LDS program covers and printable LDS program covers you can print off at home. I Know I would like Mothers Day more if they changed the official hymn of the day from Love at Home to this one (to be sung from the perspective of the mother): 1. I recommend it highly: This! (http://dandelionmama.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/this-this-is-what-i-believe/). Questions & Answers: What am I supposed to think about during the sacrament? . My wife and I were not in his ward to hear the talk, but he told us about it later. After living with me for almost 17 years, hed better get it right! One of my talks I focused on Moses and the 5 women at the beginning of his life and the different roles they played: Shiphrah & Puah, the midwives who saved his and countless other Hebrew boys lives, Jochebed his birthmother and what it must have taken to put him in the basket and shut the lid (shes a stronger woman than I am! Weve gathered this collection to help you study, write talks, and share powerful LDS quotes about mothers. Said she, If you havent convinced your mother that you love her the other 364 days of the year, nothing you say on Mothers Day is worth a damn.. It appears that this phenomenon is growing and becoming even more common everywhere in the US church. I always had this huge chip on my shoulder about refusing the flowers because I wasnt a mom (I had kids later in life), but my own mother would force me to take it because it was a free flower. Measure your words with that assumption in mind. LDS Mom Launches Exciting New Party Game. I have some ideas of speaker topics but I thought I would start a thread for suggestions of topics, scriptures, conference talks, etc that would help make a great Sacrament Meeting that honors Motherhood while also keeping a focus on Christ. Its hard for those without children, who are likely never to have children, to listen to motherhood talks that don't address their situation. I too have wrestled with the infertility monster and MD was always a nightmare. Show me a sinless mother and she can be my ideal too. I spoke about her one year. Its a complete set-up for failure. I believe the best thing a man can do is not to love his wife in word, but to help her find and be and become whatever she truly wants to be and become outside of her role as mother. Im even okay when they hand out plants. I hope Sunday goes well for you. It spoke to the special importance of mothers to their children, but also made clear that as with other mistakes, the effects of mothers failings can absolutely be healed by the Atonement. The rest of us mortals should stick with real. Please know that it is worth it then, now, and forever.. Thanks for clarifying. I have been called by God to be there and that is where I should be. At the end of the survey there was a comments box where individuals could leave specific feedback to bishoprics that organize Mothers Day. More often than not, his assumption is correct. They really did. I agree Ray. I think we should dispense with handing out things and tell everyone weve made a donation to a local womens shelter or program for mothers in need. So He can be ideal AND real. She used several stories from the NT about Christ & his mother Mary to illustrate principles that we can all use to improve our relationships with others. Re-reading my comment (101) it sounds very harsh even though that is not how I mean it to sound. kc I love me some Pres. What do you think should be handed out for Mothers Day? Serious question for everyone, just out of true curiosity: How many of these horror stories happened in the last five years? We can only celebrate the nonentity because we are afraid of hurting those who are not being celebrated "today". A break from the primary room!) I am 70 years old and have never been a mother, but I had one. Well, counselor x/counselor y is in charge of May, I dont know what hes doing for sure . He discussed the tendency of many women to feel like failures and shared ways to overcome it. Christian churchs teach that you are inherently bad, that it is not entirely your fault and that Christ has already saved you and after He gets around to telling you (if He hasnt already) that you forgiven and are His, you will do nonspecific good things he directs because you will naturally want to do them. Im catching up on the comments, but Kristines suggestion in #72 is perfect. It appears that we have adopted the perverted sense of inclusion to such a degree that we cannot mention our gratitude for our mothers and motherhood without "hurting" or "marginalizing" those who are not mothers. Ive been jinxed. No, an inclusive talk will be about current and eternal womanhood, one part of which may including being a biological mother in mortal life. I dont need to socialize at church. We are confabbing about how to turn the tables on Hallmark. I spoke one Mothers Day about Eve and Mary, and thought it was a good talk and well-received. Nourishing both body and souls.Just my humble opinion. Mark did as well in his postminus the saccharine and accent. Nothing, wakes people up in sacrament meeting like talking about chimpanzees dismembering each other. #109 Rayloved the roller coaster quote on motherhood. Flowers were also given to anyone who wanted to wear one in honour of their mothers. We know very little about HM and HF really. I could brave baby showers and birth announcements just fine, but Mother's Day cut me to the core. Why does the church HAVE to be a part of it? Preparation Print the song pages. My own father would probably appreciate a plant, but fortunately he enjoys cookies too. Further, that it wasnt the wards responsibility to celebrate the day. 10 years after my first child was born, I still detest Mothers Day. Over 70 countries observe Mothers Day, but some of them still retain these spiritual roots whereas in the US its mostly a commercial holiday. 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Ugh ugh ugh. Last year, I gave this talk. On the road this week I attend Mother's day services with the fourth ward in St George Utah. Aleah Ingram For those in Europe, is Mothers Day celebrated to the same awful-gut-wrenching extent? Just to be clear - I meant 'written/given' by women (aka musical number "O My Father" written by Eliza R Snow, conf talk by Reeve/Oscarson/Okazaki). American LDS women who attended Sacrament Meeting were told that they have a lot of innate qualities, such as being righteous, spiritual, pure, or nurturing. Some few are probably actively trying to avoid the gifts, trying hard to not remember the lack thats been rubbed in her face all day long. The "Sacrament Meeting Program" app provides users a quick, easy way to create their sacrament meeting programs. The only thing I might try if I were in charge would be to put out pink, white, red carnations and safety pins and invite everyone in the ward to wear a carnation to honor their mother pink/red if shes living, white if shes passed away. We speak about it nearly every Sunday. Honoring Fallen Parents: The Fifth Commandment and Romans 3:23 The Fifth Commandment enjoins: "Honor thy father and thy mother." Listen to her. 2. If you personally need one, thats fine, but not everyone needs a model for something that is experienced differently by everyone. I like the post. The Mothers Day talks in my singles wards have been quite sensitive to childless women, but still pretty women-on-pedestalsy. I found out the hard way after a long list of them declined to give the talk. Set them up outside the chapel, or in the kitchen or sometime. She only did half the things a good mother would have done. Forgive me for not understanding the blessing part of it. It defines our very identity, our divine stature and nature, and the unique traits our Father gave us.. As a mother of six kids, Ive had some serious depression about motherhood in general over the years but not usually on Mothers Day. I have some ideas of speaker topics but I thought I would start a thread for suggestions of topics, scriptures, conference talks, etc that would help make a great Sacrament Meeting that . When mothers know who they are and who God is and have made covenants with Him, they will have great power and influence for good on their children.. Then the clincher, it is only for women to celebrate and they need to be left alone to celebrate it as they demand and see fit. It makes my heart sad to see that the men arent recognized and given something however small it may be. At the end theyll get a rose with some message tied onto the stem with ribbon about how Jesus loves all women. My Mother will one day reach the godstage with my Father and will have there own planet. Gag. Our current Bishop decided not to do anything for mothers day. Yes. Speaking for myself, I think Fathers Day is much easier. I was honored to have known her, and to have been able to claim her as my own. Seriously, no one is going to be pleased. Only for the second time he also included a segment about how if his wife was a better homemaker maybe his kids wouldnt have such screwed up lives. Ere the sun goes down. Should we have days for every type of individual? He also shares ways a mother can become the first line of defense against the wiles of the world., RELATED: 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood. I wish you were speaking in my ward! The music . I cant remember the last time I heard a bad sacrament meeting talk, period. It was a very honest list, but emphasized that the things she would change had nothing to do with looking good, acting a certain way, or different callings. Which isnt necessarily a bad thing. This ordinance is an essential part of worship and spiritual development. The best MD talk I ever heard was given by my neighbor. She loved us unconditionally heart and soul. In preparation for the sacrament each week, Church members take time to examine their lives and repent of sins. Regarding the giveaways: in my ward for the last several years, all of the women have been given chocolates on Mothers Day (very nice ones). It seems like awareness and knowing your audience as mentioned before, is half the battle. It would be much easier for me to hear mothers day talks if they were real instead of ideal, though Id prefer a good sermon on Christ, instead. Sacrament meeting is for honoring and remembering the Savior, its not Fathers Day or Mothers Day, its the Saviors Day! Ideals ALL! Maybe the Hallmark channel should use some of his conference clips as fillers when movies end early. Don't subscribe I have no aversion to motherhood being spoken of in church. Thats what insulin is for. For the injured interceding, We changed the lines to "Mother Do You Love Me". Beautiful. Speechless. Make sure you understand where that line is. I believe it is by divine design that the role of motherhood emphasizes the nurturing and teaching of the next generation.. I would also love all quotes, conf talks, songs be from women to reinforce the value/insight/talent women have. I would love tohear from you. Theyre all very good, and not being critical, but Hallmark w/ scripture would seem to be one way to describe the style of Pres. I recommend that you take President Eyrings approach and assume that the women to whom you are speaking are doing their best, but that often their very best means just barely hanging on. In Bishopric meeting this year, I quoted your little sister regarding plants. I must let my voice be heard, I agree! I also have plenty of friends who are single sisters and they mourn growing older and menopause because they wont be able to have the children they want to hold and love. Ere the sun goes down. 1 Dead, 1 Injured in Shooting During LDS Sacrament Meeting in Nevada. The main message I gathered from reviewing this survey is, keep it simple, dont try tohave specific female messages during the meetings, and then serve a fun refreshment in the third hourjust because. My kids are way too distracting. On Mothers Day. This talk was named after a phrase from Victor Hugo who gave all her food to her children, not because she is not hungry, but because she is a mother. Elder Holland talks about the central role motherhood plays in the gospel of Jesus Christ and gives many principles of comfort and courage for mothers who may be struggling. Let us also posit that, even if the average woman is more nurturing or righteous than the . (Sorry to barge in madhousewife). Some years it gets a nod, other years the talks are unrelated. But since we have instituted Mothers Day as the day my family ditches church and meets my parents at Shoshone Falls for a picnic, I look forward to it every year. So this year we are setting up tables and chairs in the gym, hauling in meat and cheese and veggies and chocolate, and the Bishop will talk for five minutes and then we will let everybody socialize while I play the tuba for the entire primary. There have been one or two General Conference talks in the last couple of years that briefly addressed that situation. I find women in general to be compassionate and sensitive to other people and a joy to be around. iPhone. When He instituted the sacrament, Jesus Christ said, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. You can still give the women the day off. It demands that the single day of the year that Mother's are celebrated to a holiday that is solely for adult females and no one else. And, invariably, as soon as I would send one on his way, Im not a mother, thank you, another would pop up at my elbow, dutifully, kindly twisting the knife. I guess plants are pretty and mothers are pretty. That bishop that moved his ward away from elaborate gifting was doing the right thing. Still, I think the flak about Sister Becks talk is nonsense. And out the door I flee. While it addresses questions about how to raise a girl, the talk also discusses the nobility of fatherhood, the influence fathers have on children, how to cherish your wife, and why virtue is so important. Sacrament meetings include music, talks, testimonies and prayers. Although the later version of Mothers Day in the US was to honor mothers, it retained its association with peace as carnations were given out as a symbol of peace (white if ones mother was dead, pink if alive). Being Both a Disciple & a Daughter: Balancing Formality in Prayer. And chocolate. I havent had a bad Mothers Day since I divorced my ex and the day stopped being about making my kids miserable so that he could appear to be a good husband. Gospel Q&A: I Feel Guilty That I Cant Fast Because of Medical Reasons. The good talks that I have heard tend toaddressthe details ofan individual womans life, in all its messiness and particularity. Part of this ordinance is a promise to remember Him always and a witness of individual willingness to take upon oneself the name of Jesus Christ and to keep His commandments. The primary children sing and we are making a mothers day gift in primary. Ann (#76), Im sorry to hear about your mothers passing. Not all women can become real mothers. I have an aversion to bringing my family's celebration intochurch and causing other women pain. Id really love to see the fathers acknowledged on Fathers Day. Although, I hate how as a single man, some married women run from me cause they think Im going to try to seduce them or something. Just to be clear - I meant 'written/given' by women (aka musical number "O My Father" written by Eliza R Snow, conf talk by Reeve/Oscarson/Okazaki). I have heard good talks and bad talks, and really dislike the sacralizing of the universal and perfectly average activity of mothering. We do need to have some kind of an ideal, even if we may not measure up to it occasionally, or even ever! Id also like a break from a poem in the EFMormons which says that no painting, no book, no song penned by a mother could be as great as a worSocrates by their children in the future, so spending your time raising the next generation is the greatest thing you can do. Your comment was excellent, especially this part: Jesus the Messiah wasnt just sinless, He was God. Also, try to remember that not all the women in the congregation are mothers - which may be because they can't be. He invites mothers to count the debits and credits in your role as a mother. President Hinckley then goes through a number of important gospel teachings mothers should focus on. In partaking of the sacrament and making these commitments, Church members renew the covenant they made at baptism (see Mosiah 18:810; Doctrine and Covenants 20:37). I dont see why having a Tiger Mom would be necessarily any more or less traumatizing than having a Don Draper Mom. The men work. Examples? I only mentioned Mothers Day once, and I said how much my mom hated the hypocrisy of Mothers Day, and that we should treat women right every day of the year, not give platitudes one day of the year. I think its the best way to go. This was very informative and interesting. We can all sound harsh at times, but this seems to be a community of sorts and following through on the different dicussions helps put context to opinions expressed. Mothers Day is celebrated, and increasingly commercialized, but my impression of the local situation is that ones obligation to honor ones mother is largely discharged at home. Special celebrations can and should be held at home within the family. Evry idle whisper stilling Through this ordinance, Church members renew the covenants they made with God when they were baptized. Oh and starting with Anthropologist Hrdys observations on what a plane full of chimps rather than humans would look like. In this case it will likely be mothers, and the Primary kids will sing, too. May the blessings of heaven rest upon you. We've gathered five inspiring gifts for Latter-day Saint women to help them feel cherished and celebrated. I love your idea of wearing different color of flowers. Disciples should take this personal holiday to their own homes to celebrate it when and how they choose. Put me in the column of those who think Sacrament Meeting should be about Christ. Please use the comments to make your own contributions. They do not need to be perfect in order to partake of the sacrament, but they should have a spirit of humility and repentance in their hearts. Even men who are on diets. The third tells of a mother who helped her daughter with a disability at a temple dedication. My own dear mother, long since gone to her reward, summed up the essence of the perfect Mothers Day talk quite nicely. It was given by one of my high school friends. It hasnt yet. In the garden He said, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death (Matthew 26:38). Index to the Triple Combination, Sacrament, Jesus Christ Teaches about the Sacrament and Prayer, AaronL. 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Great, and I was just asked to talk on Sunday, I guess I will be very careful. #93 Ruth Is it callender time, number of posts, how irritated the host is with the comments! May your prayers be answered and your hopes and dreams become realities.. Especially for those women that aren't mothersbut, a big but, these women are mothers to villages, pets, and extended family all the time! Sadly, though, it probably caused a lot of pain to the listeners. Actually..mother's day should be everyday. In one of my wards, the women of the congregation were given wooden spoons as their gifts at the end of the meeting. What does that say about us as a people? Primary kids sang Im so glad when Mommy comes home refreshing change. (If you want to see an example, search mormon tax exemption on Twitter.) Im sure that attendance in RS would be higher on that day though. I remember long ago a young woman spoke on Mother's Day and described her mother as "the mean mother". This is a tradition of man, and sometimes it is just a bad idea. #28 Love the song choice of I Have Work Enough To Do as a tribute. Heres my updated version: Im so glad when Daddy comes home, . Gospel Q&A: Do We Really Have the Spirit With Us All the Time? This past Mother's Day we arrived late to sacrament meeting due to a cobbling mishap in the morning. Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. lol. Mothers Day theme, is the spirit is trying to witness to us at what a dumb idea it is. What does that say about the role of motherhood? Identifying ideals is somehow so treacherous for the psyches of women that that must never be mentioned? ), Miriam his sister who obeyed her mother and stayed with him and suggested her mother be his nursemaid, and the daughter of Pharoah, who raised him. As for me, I will be sitting this Mothers day out. This morning I decided to Google search Mothers Day LDS talks and came upon this article. It was both simple and profound. Yeah. My wife spoke on Mothers Day (which I originally thought was a bad choice, because she herself appears to the outside world to be the perfect mother) about her own mother and some of the simple things her mother had done for her that made a big difference in her life and how grateful she was. One of her favorites: Im so bad when daddy comes home, Although I have the suspicion that he had an ulterior motive of hoping never to be asked to speak again. from Pres. What do you think when you see a used car lot with a sign like this: Honest Abes Used Cars! "We express our love to those in this congregation and our prayers for the victims and their families. I believe he has mellowed and gained wisdom over the years and was a part of a later bishopric. 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